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« Reply #50 on: February 03, 2011, 05:37:11 PM »

@annon Pm me to i wanna see your retarded opinions mate. Cheesy
Asterios loljava? HAHAHA XD



@infinite, well i cant comment on that but its fact that L2 official software isnt made to support more than 6k players. Whatever you say wont change that.

u still did not back up this claim with any plausible evidence, and i wont take the word of the admins around here as valid after they said u can make lvl 50 and 3mil in 30minutes on retail.
Give me a reason to prove it to you. I got no reason to waste my time trying to prove you stuff. You decide if you wanna believe me or not and confirm it yourself but im telling you that is the cap.
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« Reply #51 on: February 03, 2011, 05:40:01 PM »

soft by itself can support w/e ammount of ppl, the problem is hardware that make troubles when is overloaded, just say x15 hardware cant handle more than 4k ppl
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« Reply #52 on: February 03, 2011, 05:50:24 PM »

@annon Pm me to i wanna see your retarded opinions mate. Cheesy
Asterios loljava? HAHAHA XD



@infinite, well i cant comment on that but its fact that L2 official software isnt made to support more than 6k players. Whatever you say wont change that.

u still did not back up this claim with any plausible evidence, and i wont take the word of the admins around here as valid after they said u can make lvl 50 and 3mil in 30minutes on retail.
Give me a reason to prove it to you. I got no reason to waste my time trying to prove you stuff. You decide if you wanna believe me or not and confirm it yourself but im telling you that is the cap.

that basically shows ur just trusting the word of the admin crew around here and have absolutely no way to prove the accuracy of those claims.

the same admin crew that claims they can get a lvl 50 char with 3 million adena on retail.

very plausible.

im not blaming the admins/gms or anything here, but its a lot more "correct" if they just come clean and be honest about whats going on. its a lot better to just say "sorry guys but our hardware cannot handle so many connections at the same time during such a high load period like the siege weekends and because of that, everything fucks up".
that would be very plausible as this is a private server and no one expects hardware to be awesome.
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Benc I sorrow for you ... you not play not eat  only with red eyes making and making some proofs ur dibilish.  I'm upset that u are so kiddish , man . That server has some problems with Hide skill. that skill bugged here. If I will click in place where u going use hide, after hide I can hit you w\o any 3rd software. Pls  drink some poison and die . Thx for ur attention
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« Reply #53 on: February 03, 2011, 05:51:01 PM »

once again, i dont belive there will be freya since even one bug wasnt fixed yet, and
dex got scripts also, so where is ur problem? since u consider me as rpg hater, u can ask f.e zosiek to tell u how this freya is working
dex is running on java dude, here you have retail files, retail scrips cant work with l2j  Roll Eyes
Clueless people everywhere.
Retail scripts can be transformed to l2j scripts, u just have to figure it out how.
And here you have retail files ?  Cheesy
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« Reply #54 on: February 03, 2011, 06:24:53 PM »

@annon Pm me to i wanna see your retarded opinions mate. Cheesy
Asterios loljava? HAHAHA XD



@infinite, well i cant comment on that but its fact that L2 official software isnt made to support more than 6k players. Whatever you say wont change that.

u still did not back up this claim with any plausible evidence, and i wont take the word of the admins around here as valid after they said u can make lvl 50 and 3mil in 30minutes on retail.
Give me a reason to prove it to you. I got no reason to waste my time trying to prove you stuff. You decide if you wanna believe me or not and confirm it yourself but im telling you that is the cap.

that basically shows ur just trusting the word of the admin crew around here and have absolutely no way to prove the accuracy of those claims.

the same admin crew that claims they can get a lvl 50 char with 3 million adena on retail.

very plausible.

im not blaming the admins/gms or anything here, but its a lot more "correct" if they just come clean and be honest about whats going on. its a lot better to just say "sorry guys but our hardware cannot handle so many connections at the same time during such a high load period like the siege weekends and because of that, everything fucks up".
that would be very plausible as this is a private server and no one expects hardware to be awesome.

Well, that doesn't explain why first sieges were almost (delayed 1h due to crash at the beggining) fine just as the first global TW. There were even more people on there. What you suggest is either that hardware is failing and well (SSD are pain in the ass for maintenance, one already died, so there can be something in there) or they changed hardware to worse a bit over 2 weeks ago, before the problems started. There can be also ISP/datacenter issues included but can't find any reason why should fame being lost or people being kicked out of TW then.

What is most likely true is that server software is indeed not capable of running stable with so many people on what would explain why single retail/ruoff set the cap usually on 6k and even tho random issues happends as well.
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« Reply #55 on: February 03, 2011, 06:30:06 PM »

I dont give a cent for what the admin says about this or that when it comes to such things that they would benefit from saying. Im basing my statements on what ive read on both na/eu forums and my experience with the korean servers as well as the cap which is said on the sites which shows the russian servers online count.

And for whoever says that software can support any number of players your totally wrong and should rethink. The software isnt made to handle any amount of players and there will be overflows in the variables at some point like i said, the consequences of such a event could be quite grave. If you have no experience with programming or game development i suggest you just step back from a discussion about software... Im studying to become a 3D artist and have previously studied game programming and ive made several small games and i dont think im close to qualified to say for sure A or B but i do believe i have more experience and knowledge than most here when it comes to development of games.
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« Reply #56 on: February 03, 2011, 06:36:09 PM »

then mby its just problem with pts files coz i dont remember celes/arion/asterios having such problems
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« Reply #57 on: February 03, 2011, 06:50:47 PM »

then mby its just problem with pts files coz i dont remember celes/arion/asterios having such problems
I doubt any of them had over 6k online, those servers were a lot more empty than rpg (except asterios which is a loljava and made in a very different way therefore different limitations). Arion now should be java afaik which like i just stated might have different limitations, and i remember at launch when i played there it was much players but not to that extent (6k).

Anyway i just cant stand asterios for example, they have some weird location correction which makes your character port a bit every time you reach your target, its terrible and doesn't feel correct when your used to proper game mechanics.
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« Reply #58 on: February 03, 2011, 07:11:17 PM »

then mby its just problem with pts files coz i dont remember celes/arion/asterios having such problems

Well, comparing Celes or Arion to RPG is pointless. Those server were running on modded C4 files with not even half the content we have here. There was way less things to break. Asterios on the other hand is just an l2j sever, custom made with custom fixes and handled over 10k people at start, lagging quite badly. Celes most likely reached about 8k (we'll never know since they never shared with their online, but it was full like RPG at start) at peaks during first week but it was preety much unplayable and was crashing often. Problems here started at tw, then it just kept going.
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« Reply #59 on: February 03, 2011, 07:12:13 PM »

im not blaming the admins/gms or anything here, but its a lot more "correct" if they just come clean and be honest about whats going on. its a lot better to just say "sorry guys but our hardware cannot handle so many connections at the same time during such a high load period like the siege weekends and because of that, everything fucks up".
that would be very plausible as this is a private server and no one expects hardware to be awesome.

Correct or not, thats what they say. You can agree with it or not, but i dont give a damn about it as many others.

You need proofs for everything? Go play at some retail than, where noone will care about your little character, but you pay for them a monthly fee.

Private servers are private servers with their pro and contras (free, but everything can fckd up).

If you dont have any little clue about programming (C, C++, C#, JAVA, XML), servers (hardware and software side), protocols, database structures (MSSQL, MySQL), than why the hell you want any proof of something that you dont have a damn clue about? It is like telling to a dog that how can a MIG-29 flying.

Someone sayd above something about the database failure. Maybe that causes some problems (MSSQL is terrible in many ways), like crashing, mass DC (cannot say anything for sure without the log files, but even the log files cannot say so much often), bcuz when a table have a row that is a guid for example (special id for something that increases) and have INTEGER value (INT can be maximum in the scale of +/-65535 16 bit, from -32768 to 32767), if the guid goes over that number (+32767) it will throw an error and crash, or if these files that RPG are using have some threat-hole finder it can catch this and cause a mass dc instead of crashing (also mass dc can be done by several other things, like data overflow at the datacenter or at the lan card at the server, etc.) The above integer thing is just an example. If you really need such an explanations from the admins, you wont get any, thats for sure. Also let me remember you that RPG using PTS (Public Test Server) files, wich means it is a beta stage Gracia Final with some limited options.

If you want to understand how these things are working, you will need (minimum) an avarage software/hardware proficiency. Otherwise it is just forum trolling and/or crying from you (lost fame, no badges w/e).
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« Reply #60 on: February 03, 2011, 07:12:38 PM »

then mby its just problem with pts files coz i dont remember celes/arion/asterios having such problems

celes - c4 modded, no clan system sure?
arion - l2j
asterios - l2j


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« Reply #61 on: February 03, 2011, 09:37:44 PM »

Anyway Server GG, this is dying slowly, at start plenty of players, now from last TW and sieges all night, -2 k, wait until next TW and maybe -2k less Cheesy GG
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« Reply #62 on: February 03, 2011, 09:41:10 PM »

Yes i think its better you leave already, noone cares bro. : )
If 2k more leaves it will be 6k on which is perfect imo.
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« Reply #63 on: February 03, 2011, 09:46:03 PM »

would be nice if more ppl leave.)
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« Reply #64 on: February 03, 2011, 09:49:57 PM »

Yes i think its better you leave already, noone cares bro. : )
If 2k more leaves it will be 6k on which is perfect imo.
But the people here is proud about number online players RPG has, but when the on number gets at least 5k it will a common usual server as "loljava". And less people will leave for sure when  a next TW comes and one "loljava" decent servers opens will be a mass move .
By the way seems more funiest to play in freya and not again and again (with pain in the ass) gracia final over and over again. Come on pretty boring two chronicles behind :\ sux.

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« Reply #65 on: February 04, 2011, 07:16:28 AM »

Tatao your english is quite bad... hard to understand what you mean... ;/
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« Reply #66 on: February 04, 2011, 07:46:57 AM »

well like we all noticed by aden shops rly xx % ppl quited. Las week we couldnt even move to warehouse and now...10x 10 m for 1 shop kinda sad. Freya will make this server alive but when? Or will be it too late ?
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« Reply #67 on: February 04, 2011, 12:48:04 PM »

well like we all noticed by aden shops rly xx % ppl quited. Las week we couldnt even move to warehouse and now...10x 10 m for 1 shop kinda sad. Freya will make this server alive but when? Or will be it too late ?
trade bot didnt work lol, wait now with the new one, im just setting up 20 stores XD
Dont look at shops, look at the amount off ppl on hb for example, even in tullys ive seen ooc hiding allready Cheesy
so you just admited that half of this online are bots, gg
tradebots doesnt work=no market on server
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« Reply #68 on: February 04, 2011, 12:50:31 PM »

Facepalm...




Where does all those retards come from?
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« Reply #69 on: February 04, 2011, 12:52:52 PM »

with tradebots online 8k
without tradebots online barely goes above 5k
still ppl can triple box, which mean main+buffer+shop
so what is real online of real players? 2k?
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« Reply #70 on: February 04, 2011, 01:12:43 PM »

with tradebots online 8k
without tradebots online barely goes above 5k
still ppl can triple box, which mean main+buffer+shop
so what is real online of real players? 2k?
50 imo

go back to ur d3xoff l2j
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« Reply #71 on: February 04, 2011, 02:16:53 PM »

well like we all noticed by aden shops rly xx % ppl quited. Las week we couldnt even move to warehouse and now...10x 10 m for 1 shop kinda sad. Freya will make this server alive but when? Or will be it too late ?

well shops =/= real number of ppl on serv...and 10K ppl =/= funy entertaining serv...many ppl have problems with tradebots..so they stop use it..
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« Reply #72 on: February 04, 2011, 04:08:06 PM »

10k are old times i havent seen more than 6-7 since 1 week
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« Reply #73 on: February 04, 2011, 04:08:59 PM »

8 days still TW  Cheesy
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« Reply #74 on: February 04, 2011, 07:52:52 PM »

Yes, Server is gg, i have told you, if you don't belive me wait until next TW or Siege war.

Someone says about "loljava", but i see some servers l2j don't have any problems with TW, Trade, fame, Siege wars and so on Cheesy
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