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« on: October 09, 2012, 11:42:17 PM »

1.Whats max box amount?

2.Will you make dynamic signatures for new server available?

3.Is there walker/tower/l2net/ranger protection?

1. Main + 2 boxes at start
2. what is it about?
3. yes


It seems that tower protection is not work properly, it will be fixed, or just baning captured players?

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« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2012, 11:45:07 PM »

damn now they will be mass bot  Undecided
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« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2012, 12:06:19 AM »

like u didnt know rpg admins..

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« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2012, 12:10:38 AM »

like u didnt know rpg admins..

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« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2012, 12:26:16 AM »

So it's ok but only if gm are checking everytime  players Tongue
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« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2012, 11:18:23 AM »

I really dont think that admins will launch server w/o protections.
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« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2012, 02:29:46 AM »

Here i want to share my opinion with you, Maybe some people won't like what i say now but I'll say it anyway

First of all I never understood people who wants to have bot protection in server they play, either they found a way to bypass servers where bot protection actually works and gain big advantage on other people who can't use bot or dunno... well, I can't find any other explanation and I will tell you why:

Lineage2 is retarded game itself where you need to kill millions of mobs to achieve your goal, especially in low rate server, you need to do the same thing all the time for hours, everyday... which is clicking on same mobs all the time which is stressful, very tiring, time consuming and health damaging

Now tell me is that normal for a human being who does all that everyday? no it's not normal, that's why i don't understand people who wants to have bot protection, maybe they don't care about themselves but what do they want from people who don't want to dedicate their life to lineage2 and do their thing instead of clicking on mobs by hands?

In the other hand bots on server will give us balanced, competitively, various market with fair enough prices, which is good for server.

If i was in Admin's place i would do the same thing, just write on paper that there will be some bot protection to make some under 70 IQ people shut their mouth and let others to bot in their own risk so i can ban them when i catch them and  especially strongly hunt on people who use bot programs for PvP and get money for unban, why not? cause using bot for exp is different thing and using bot for PvP is totally different and unacceptable.

Here are my 2 cents

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« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2012, 08:48:58 AM »

dude, if u think it's too hard to xp on low rates and u need bots to do it for u, move your f ass on high rates. problem solved
why do u still play this game if bots xp for u, farm for u and fight for u? just to consume electricity?
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« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2012, 01:40:01 PM »

Here i want to share my opinion with you, Maybe some people won't like what i say now but I'll say it anyway

First of all I never understood people who wants to have bot protection in server they play, either they found a way to bypass servers where bot protection actually works and gain big advantage on other people who can't use bot or dunno... well, I can't find any other explanation and I will tell you why:

Lineage2 is retarded game itself where you need to kill millions of mobs to achieve your goal, especially in low rate server, you need to do the same thing all the time for hours, everyday... which is clicking on same mobs all the time which is stressful, very tiring, time consuming and health damaging

Now tell me is that normal for a human being who does all that everyday? no it's not normal, that's why i don't understand people who wants to have bot protection, maybe they don't care about themselves but what do they want from people who don't want to dedicate their life to lineage2 and do their thing instead of clicking on mobs by hands?

In the other hand bots on server will give us balanced, competitively, various market with fair enough prices, which is good for server.

If i was in Admin's place i would do the same thing, just write on paper that there will be some bot protection to make some under 70 IQ people shut their mouth and let others to bot in their own risk so i can ban them when i catch them and  especially strongly hunt on people who use bot programs for PvP and get money for unban, why not? cause using bot for exp is different thing and using bot for PvP is totally different and unacceptable.

Here are my 2 cents

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Russians use bots for PvP and PvE whether or not there is a bot protection and whether or not they get banned for doing it. That's the way they want to play the game.

On the other hand you can play Lineage2 with a constant party and progress fairly fast with as little as 8 hours of daily farming. Some people actually enjoy grinding and achieving their goals the legit way. Also it gives you great satisfaction to beat PvP bots in game because of finding flaws in their scripts!  (for example: on eu.Core (GoD x1) the Russians used a bot which would automatically nobless everyone after the buff was stolen by steal divinity. The way we worked around this is we would cast nobless blessing on the enemy and after that steal the nobless with kamael and their script got messed up)

Nevertheless I strongly disagree that administration should encourage people to use bots since they are a little bit gamebreaking. The market doesn't work better with bots because normal players are unable to create profit by grinding if bots are grinding 24/7.

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« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2012, 01:47:32 PM »

Here i want to share my opinion with you, Maybe some people won't like what i say now but I'll say it anyway

First of all I never understood people who wants to have bot protection in server they play, either they found a way to bypass servers where bot protection actually works and gain big advantage on other people who can't use bot or dunno... well, I can't find any other explanation and I will tell you why:

Lineage2 is retarded game itself where you need to kill millions of mobs to achieve your goal, especially in low rate server, you need to do the same thing all the time for hours, everyday... which is clicking on same mobs all the time which is stressful, very tiring, time consuming and health damaging

Now tell me is that normal for a human being who does all that everyday? no it's not normal, that's why i don't understand people who wants to have bot protection, maybe they don't care about themselves but what do they want from people who don't want to dedicate their life to lineage2 and do their thing instead of clicking on mobs by hands?

In the other hand bots on server will give us balanced, competitively, various market with fair enough prices, which is good for server.

If i was in Admin's place i would do the same thing, just write on paper that there will be some bot protection to make some under 70 IQ people shut their mouth and let others to bot in their own risk so i can ban them when i catch them and  especially strongly hunt on people who use bot programs for PvP and get money for unban, why not? cause using bot for exp is different thing and using bot for PvP is totally different and unacceptable.

Here are my 2 cents

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« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2012, 02:02:10 PM »

The best bot protection would be to get a reward for every player who's reporting a bot  Cool
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« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2012, 02:26:07 PM »

it didnt work on GF OBT 2 weeks ago , weird.   Huh Huh Huh

anyway u can update/downgrade programs in order to pass protection so cant realy block it with no game guard.
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« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2012, 02:43:09 PM »

pve botting good pvp botting bad
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« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2012, 03:31:37 PM »

Here i want to share my opinion with you, Maybe some people won't like what i say now but I'll say it anyway

First of all I never understood people who wants to have bot protection in server they play, either they found a way to bypass servers where bot protection actually works and gain big advantage on other people who can't use bot or dunno... well, I can't find any other explanation and I will tell you why:

Lineage2 is retarded game itself where you need to kill millions of mobs to achieve your goal, especially in low rate server, you need to do the same thing all the time for hours, everyday... which is clicking on same mobs all the time which is stressful, very tiring, time consuming and health damaging

Now tell me is that normal for a human being who does all that everyday? no it's not normal, that's why i don't understand people who wants to have bot protection, maybe they don't care about themselves but what do they want from people who don't want to dedicate their life to lineage2 and do their thing instead of clicking on mobs by hands?

In the other hand bots on server will give us balanced, competitively, various market with fair enough prices, which is good for server.

If i was in Admin's place i would do the same thing, just write on paper that there will be some bot protection to make some under 70 IQ people shut their mouth and let others to bot in their own risk so i can ban them when i catch them and  especially strongly hunt on people who use bot programs for PvP and get money for unban, why not? cause using bot for exp is different thing and using bot for PvP is totally different and unacceptable.

Here are my 2 cents

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threat for admin  Grin Grin




Russians use bots for PvP and PvE whether or not there is a bot protection and whether or not they get banned for doing it. That's the way they want to play the game.

On the other hand you can play Lineage2 with a constant party and progress fairly fast with as little as 8 hours of daily farming. Some people actually enjoy grinding and achieving their goals the legit way. Also it gives you great satisfaction to beat PvP bots in game because of finding flaws in their scripts!  (for example: on eu.Core (GoD x1) the Russians used a bot which would automatically nobless everyone after the buff was stolen by steal divinity. The way we worked around this is we would cast nobless blessing on the enemy and after that steal the nobless with kamael and their script got messed up)

Nevertheless I strongly disagree that administration should encourage people to use bots since they are a little bit gamebreaking. The market doesn't work better with bots because normal players are unable to create profit by grinding if bots are grinding 24/7.


With constant party of 9 members in GF you progress slower then others unless you're farming HB and SoD which I doubt you will be able to farm there at least first month, even if you farm with your CP 8 hours a day manually that can't be fun and normal, PvE is no fun in this game when it continues 8 hours and it consists with doing the same thing everyday, it's just nonsense to do.

In this game I'm having fun in PvP/Oly etc, i want to farm just to get good enough lvl/gear to have fun, how i farm is less important, main thing is PvP in this game, tell me 1 guy who likes to no life PvE of 8 hours manually? What for? Does it worth it? No.

Conclusion:

Botting in PvP unacceptable

Botting in PvE acceptable
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« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2012, 05:48:34 PM »

what the point to cheat in the game ? you only wasted your time and better to do something else in real life.

This game is a HARD mmorpg ! here you will gain exp 3 times more faster than official.

if you can't accept it, go on high rate or play other games

I hope they will be GM's support cuz if I catch a bot I will report it, and my FRAPS app is just ready to use
But if admin ban the cheater and ask them money to get back their account, it mean they will search cheaters to get their money ! and this thing is more powerful than antibot
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« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2012, 06:29:04 PM »

what the point to cheat in the game ? you only wasted your time and better to do something else in real life.

This game is a HARD mmorpg ! here you will gain exp 3 times more faster than official.

if you can't accept it, go on high rate or play other games

I hope they will be GM's support cuz if I catch a bot I will report it, and my FRAPS app is just ready to use
But if admin ban the cheater and ask them money to get back their account, it mean they will search cheaters to get their money ! and this thing is more powerful than antibot
I don't agree with you

Waste of time would be to make fraps of bots and PvE whole your L2 career manually, do the same boring thing for hours and still didn't see real PvP even when all the factors quit the server
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« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2012, 06:43:54 PM »

So if this is boring, you chose the wrong game ...

Lineage is not only about pvp.
Pve takes a big place too that's why it's a hardcore game.

Seems you know nothing about L2. I bet you start L2 on high rate  Cheesy
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« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2012, 07:20:59 PM »

So if this is boring, you chose the wrong game ...

Lineage is not only about pvp.
Pve takes a big place too that's why it's a hardcore game.

Seems you know nothing about L2. I bet you start L2 on high rate  Cheesy
If i start talking about myself that will be self praising but anyway i can tell you one thing, x3 for a rate is pretty high for me cause i used to play x1 for years and also i played tons of private servers starting from low rate ending to high rate, any problem? Wink

It's not about me or you, I was talking general, my arguments on things i said are valid and logical while you're throwing 2+2=4 replies on me like "L2 is not only about PvP" - "PvE takes big place too" which is not adequate reply but thanks for your opinion anyway!
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« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2012, 07:36:48 PM »

If there is no PVE , pvp gets boring very fast , only 9v9 matches (it's fun for like 1 week) and 2 per month sieges and teritory wars.
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« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2012, 10:46:25 PM »

If they find any good bot protection; l2 tower, l2 net or anyone will find any way to break this protection.. so QQ
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« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2012, 11:17:53 PM »

Here i want to share my opinion with you, Maybe some people won't like what i say now but I'll say it anyway

First of all I never understood people who wants to have bot protection in server they play, either they found a way to bypass servers where bot protection actually works and gain big advantage on other people who can't use bot or dunno... well, I can't find any other explanation and I will tell you why:

Lineage2 is retarded game itself where you need to kill millions of mobs to achieve your goal, especially in low rate server, you need to do the same thing all the time for hours, everyday... which is clicking on same mobs all the time which is stressful, very tiring, time consuming and health damaging

Now tell me is that normal for a human being who does all that everyday? no it's not normal, that's why i don't understand people who wants to have bot protection, maybe they don't care about themselves but what do they want from people who don't want to dedicate their life to lineage2 and do their thing instead of clicking on mobs by hands?

In the other hand bots on server will give us balanced, competitively, various market with fair enough prices, which is good for server.

If i was in Admin's place i would do the same thing, just write on paper that there will be some bot protection to make some under 70 IQ people shut their mouth and let others to bot in their own risk so i can ban them when i catch them and  especially strongly hunt on people who use bot programs for PvP and get money for unban, why not? cause using bot for exp is different thing and using bot for PvP is totally different and unacceptable.

Here are my 2 cents

P.S.

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Russians use bots for PvP and PvE whether or not there is a bot protection and whether or not they get banned for doing it. That's the way they want to play the game.

On the other hand you can play Lineage2 with a constant party and progress fairly fast with as little as 8 hours of daily farming. Some people actually enjoy grinding and achieving their goals the legit way. Also it gives you great satisfaction to beat PvP bots in game because of finding flaws in their scripts!  (for example: on eu.Core (GoD x1) the Russians used a bot which would automatically nobless everyone after the buff was stolen by steal divinity. The way we worked around this is we would cast nobless blessing on the enemy and after that steal the nobless with kamael and their script got messed up)

Nevertheless I strongly disagree that administration should encourage people to use bots since they are a little bit gamebreaking. The market doesn't work better with bots because normal players are unable to create profit by grinding if bots are grinding 24/7.


With constant party of 9 members in GF you progress slower then others unless you're farming HB and SoD which I doubt you will be able to farm there at least first month, even if you farm with your CP 8 hours a day manually that can't be fun and normal, PvE is no fun in this game when it continues 8 hours and it consists with doing the same thing everyday, it's just nonsense to do.

In this game I'm having fun in PvP/Oly etc, i want to farm just to get good enough lvl/gear to have fun, how i farm is less important, main thing is PvP in this game, tell me 1 guy who likes to no life PvE of 8 hours manually? What for? Does it worth it? No.

Conclusion:

Botting in PvP unacceptable

Botting in PvE acceptable

Last server (and the only server) that I played seriously I played with a CP with daily activity of around 8 hours. On such server (l2eu Core x1) you don't PvE without PvP.. This is exactly what I was trying to point out. Whenever we managed to banish the russians to oblivion it was fun to PvE for a couple of hours 'cos you never knew if they would come back and try to kill you.

It's going to be like that on this server as well. Good CPs fighting (not mine, I'm just joining to see a lot of people playing this game once again) for few good spots in the whole map. Most of them will use any program that are available but I'm pretty sure that there are bunch of people who also enjoy doing their PvPvE manually rather than watching a program play your game and jacking off to it.
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« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2012, 08:04:33 PM »

pve botting good pvp botting bad

hmm i can prove you pvp plugin for berseker rush, better then any "real" player ever done.

get the target back after agro faid/auto target robes->light->heavy users by this order.

many more good stuff helps in pvp (auto-cp recovery-elixirs-auto buffs after gettin debuffed etc etc etc...

just pay for anti-hack/game-guard or youll fail again 90% botts rpg-club (the main reason i wont bother play it).
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« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2012, 09:39:32 PM »

when did Lame Guard stoped anything ?
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