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« on: October 28, 2011, 02:04:06 AM »

Hi
I've got a question about subclass certification skills for Sagittarius.
I've chosen celestial shield, passive focus and long shot.
From 60-65 lvl ofc 6x mdef.
My question is - is there any better option? and why?

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« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2011, 03:05:12 AM »

haste ftw
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« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2011, 10:07:21 AM »

I usually go for long shot for sure, then im trying UD, Cele, boost CP or haste combinations. Why boost CP? well, I would go for 2 trigger but then I got overbuffed sometimes. Maybe in H5... (Anyway I rather have Cele/UD by now).

But pasive focus... no. With buff and S80+ bow u already get 500 critical rate. And Im counting that if ure an archer then u are always topbuffed.
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« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2011, 01:00:00 PM »

Ok, i can go for boost cp or chance haste without cancelling subclass due to choosing Tyrant. But i was thinking about UD too (chance haste is good, but really - for archer? He does not shot so fast to use it effectively imo, but i am not experienced with that so dunno). You say sometimes may get overbuffed, well it can be true and cp is the key here. Many ppl told me that long shot is useless shit, but how is working archer with max range?
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« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2011, 02:42:18 PM »

UD (celestial Shield), triggers when you're being attacked, not when you attack (that's what i understood from your post, correct me if I'm wrong). Although it's change, it can save your butt sometimes, either in pvp or pve.
In your case, even though you attack from far, with long shot + snipe (when useful), you get out of the range of most mages since, as far as I know, their range only goes to 900 or so, and with UD, even if you get in range of a mage, or are being attacked by another archer, it can save you.
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« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2011, 06:48:42 PM »

Well its obvious that celestial shield triggers when i am attacked. But there is also counter defense from Knight Class, i dunno why ppl call it ud (yes, I noticed it many times). What about cele, counter defence and long shot? Celestial shield is core for sure. I think rest is something from long shot - counter defence - CP - evasion(?)
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« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2011, 10:21:06 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2011, 10:49:25 PM »

That defense from tank, I believe it only boosts your pdef by 200 or so for 15 seconds (more than celestial which lasts 3-7seconds). Now I don't know how it would be in practice, but you can go on obt and test that freely Smiley

You being an archer, I'd go either: Celestial, Haste trigger (firing that amount of damage from a bow quickly seems like a plus), and Long Shot, or Celestial, Long Shot, and probally mana steal (or whatever its called) because as an archer you waste mana just by firing.
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« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2011, 01:07:46 AM »

Ok, but there is a bit of misunderstanding.
http://www.l2gc.com/races/human/saggitarius/

Silent Mind Lv.1 - Passive Skill
Allows use of a bow without consuming MP.

(im lvl 79 so havent reached this lvl yet)
Chance haste - it has 1(?)% of probability, so with archer who shoots not really fast, it may trigger uneffectively. Thus i would like to know if it works from someone who used it.
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« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2011, 05:47:54 PM »

mana steal? omg xD useless.

u can also manage another options not only passives, like having healer subclase for the divine healer transform lvl 80, which gives u sacrifice, a skill that allows you to restore HP/MP of your entire party but you (u dont need mp anyway since silent mind exists). But never tried this, Ive just saw it on some vids. Problem is that healer pasives are useless (there having focus mastery has a point).
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« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2011, 05:58:34 PM »

id go for haste/cele/ud since at h5 trigers get their own slots and they wont overbuff you
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« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2011, 06:38:08 PM »

id go for haste/cele/ud since at h5 trigers get their own slots and they wont overbuff you
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i didnt know that in h5 it will work better. But now its the problem - should I sacrifice long shot : D. Cele is for sure, no doubt.
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« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2011, 06:46:49 PM »

my personal skills on saggi from sub are
enchanter barrier , knight defence ,  rogue long shot and emnergent attack lvl 6
if you have any doubs about my picks just ask why
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« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2011, 04:13:53 AM »

mana Steal was a remote thought that went through my mind xD

Silent Mind is h5 only skill afaik (i might be wrong - corrections welcome) Tongue

Why p.atk lvl 6? If I recall correctly, archer skills are not p.atk dependent like doombringer/glad/tyrant and others, so it would only affect his normal shots.

I'm way too sleepy atm, so not my answers might not be accurate lol
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« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2011, 12:31:23 PM »

id go for haste/cele/ud since at h5 trigers get their own slots and they wont overbuff you
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i didnt know that in h5 it will work better. But now its the problem - should I sacrifice long shot : D. Cele is for sure, no doubt.

who cares about long shot, you can enchant snipe on "decrease penalty" and go nuts with it
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