Pages: [1] 2 3   Go Down
Print
Author Topic: dual dagger elemental, looking for opinion  (Read 5300 times)
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
yoker
Hero Member
*****

Karma: +5/-41
Offline Offline

Posts: 583


View Profile
« on: December 13, 2011, 10:53:02 PM »

Here's the thing:
have normal icarus dagger and blows +earth. Today bought icarus dual dagger +25 wind. I don't know if I should make it stricte pve dagger by going +holy or maybe if I should make it +earth as well or maybe leave it +wind, since vesper shaper +wind seems to be bit more popular than +earth.
Want to find out from H5 specs. if using dual daggers in pvp makes any sense. Dual dagger provide extra blow, but from what I've heard land rate of regulars blows (deadly, bs, lethal) is lower comparing with singular dagger. Dunno if it's true. Another thing: singular dagger has CD SA while dual has focus.
To conclude:
1. is it just my opinion/observation or is vesper shaper wind is more popular than earth?
2. which dagger is better in pvp in H5? Regular one or dual?
Logged

Bulle
Hero Member
*****

Karma: +453/-545
Offline Offline

Gender: Female
Posts: 1844


Hiii blblblbl


View Profile
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2011, 10:58:03 PM »

Make it what ever element you want and put your skills on duel
Dual dagger = only useful when there is PvP on it to cancel
Logged

Eyolis - x30/5/15/3
dual dagger elemental, looking for opinion, 4 sepulchers quest lineage2, 4game lineage
yoker
Hero Member
*****

Karma: +5/-41
Offline Offline

Posts: 583


View Profile
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2011, 11:24:53 PM »

as far as I know going +duel makes sense only with blows +25 or higher, but I might be wrong tho.
Logged

Babe
Sr. Member
****

Karma: +15/-19
Offline Offline

Posts: 317


View Profile
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2011, 09:10:37 PM »

Here's the thing:
have normal icarus dagger and blows +earth. Today bought icarus dual dagger +25 wind. I don't know if I should make it stricte pve dagger by going +holy or maybe if I should make it +earth as well or maybe leave it +wind, since vesper shaper +wind seems to be bit more popular than +earth.
Want to find out from H5 specs. if using dual daggers in pvp makes any sense. Dual dagger provide extra blow, but from what I've heard land rate of regulars blows (deadly, bs, lethal) is lower comparing with singular dagger. Dunno if it's true. Another thing: singular dagger has CD SA while dual has focus.
To conclude:
1. is it just my opinion/observation or is vesper shaper wind is more popular than earth?
2. which dagger is better in pvp in H5? Regular one or dual?

need both Wink
Logged

dual dagger elemental, looking for opinion, 4 sepulchers quest lineage2, 4game lineage
Caandril
Member Plus
**

Karma: +1/-2
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 62



View Profile
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2011, 06:06:48 PM »

btw, according to all classes and weapons - whats better after all? duel or element enchant?
Logged

dual dagger elemental, looking for opinion, 4 sepulchers quest lineage2, 4game lineage

Noobwars/DKtech/Virtue/Aerith/Celes/RPG
Fatality,
Sr. Member
****

Karma: +13/-73
Offline Offline

Posts: 345



View Profile
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2011, 06:12:43 PM »

btw, according to all classes and weapons - whats better after all? duel or element enchant?
duel > power > element
Logged

ETC member - x30 - Fatality
dual dagger elemental, looking for opinion, 4 sepulchers quest lineage2, 4game lineagedual dagger elemental, looking for opinion, 4 sepulchers quest lineage2, 4game lineage - x5 - Fatality
dual dagger elemental, looking for opinion, 4 sepulchers quest lineage2, 4game lineage - x15- Fatality
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
dual dagger elemental, looking for opinion, 4 sepulchers quest lineage2, 4game lineage
yoker
Hero Member
*****

Karma: +5/-41
Offline Offline

Posts: 583


View Profile
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2011, 11:18:26 PM »

btw, according to all classes and weapons - whats better after all? duel or element enchant?
duel > power > element
are you sure about it? I think that you refer to situation with 1800 resist. But with 900 (or less) ele isn't bad idea I think.
Logged

Fatality,
Sr. Member
****

Karma: +13/-73
Offline Offline

Posts: 345



View Profile
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2011, 11:40:16 PM »

btw, according to all classes and weapons - whats better after all? duel or element enchant?
duel > power > element
are you sure about it? I think that you refer to situation with 1800 resist. But with 900 (or less) ele isn't bad idea I think.
element skills sux .... it isnt so hard to make 900 set and you will have if you are not idiot 120resist at least for each element and also every1 will have elemental protect so from your 300 attributed weapon you will get max 160attr and it isnt here so hard to get some resists buff which are boosted also and btw attribut damage was decreased.
300=+70%
150=+40%
35=+20% if i am right
Logged

ETC member - x30 - Fatality
dual dagger elemental, looking for opinion, 4 sepulchers quest lineage2, 4game lineagedual dagger elemental, looking for opinion, 4 sepulchers quest lineage2, 4game lineage - x5 - Fatality
dual dagger elemental, looking for opinion, 4 sepulchers quest lineage2, 4game lineage - x15- Fatality
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
dual dagger elemental, looking for opinion, 4 sepulchers quest lineage2, 4game lineage
vesslan
Hero Member
*****

Karma: +5/-139
Offline Offline

Posts: 560


TOUGH IS NOT ENOUGH


View Profile
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2011, 03:43:43 PM »

Wait some weeks, and change skills to duel, use 1H dagger sa CD Wink
« Last Edit: December 20, 2011, 03:47:45 PM by Wayne » Logged

dual dagger elemental, looking for opinion, 4 sepulchers quest lineage2, 4game lineage
dual dagger elemental, looking for opinion, 4 sepulchers quest lineage2, 4game lineage
mk89
Full Member
***

Karma: +2/-9
Offline Offline

Posts: 161


View Profile
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2011, 08:57:52 PM »

1h dagger and dual daggers +4 both pvp same dmg, tested on OBT so imo dual daggers are best Smiley
Logged
vesslan
Hero Member
*****

Karma: +5/-139
Offline Offline

Posts: 560


TOUGH IS NOT ENOUGH


View Profile
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2011, 10:32:09 PM »

1h dagger and dual daggers +4 both pvp same dmg, tested on OBT so imo dual daggers are best Smiley

You're wrong, test it again and prove with screenshots, 1h daggers with SA CD make more dmg than dual daggers that have no SA (-CD) and remember that dual dagger +4  got 2-3% lower CD then 1H Dagger +CD

Is like eyolis said, the propose to use dual daggers is only for cancel ofc if u have it on {pvp} and for PVE.
« Last Edit: December 29, 2011, 10:50:47 PM by Wayne » Logged

dual dagger elemental, looking for opinion, 4 sepulchers quest lineage2, 4game lineage
dual dagger elemental, looking for opinion, 4 sepulchers quest lineage2, 4game lineage
mk89
Full Member
***

Karma: +2/-9
Offline Offline

Posts: 161


View Profile
« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2012, 10:49:33 PM »

1h dagger and dual daggers +4 both pvp same dmg, tested on OBT so imo dual daggers are best Smiley

You're wrong, test it again and prove with screenshots, 1h daggers with SA CD make more dmg than dual daggers that have no SA (-CD) and remember that dual dagger +4  got 2-3% lower CD then 1H Dagger +CD

Is like eyolis said, the propose to use dual daggers is only for cancel ofc if u have it on {pvp} and for PVE.
with duals u get Special Ability: PvP Damage Lv.1 that is equal to 1H dagger Special Ability: Crtical Damage Lv.3 u will make same dmg with both daggers and the only reason dual daggers are better is that u can use dual blow and have more dps. when u add pvp on dual daggers u get Special Ability: PvP Damage Lv.3 while on 1H dagger its only lvl1 Smiley so I don't need any screens it's just pure facts... go test urself and qq then.
« Last Edit: January 01, 2012, 11:07:06 PM by mk89 » Logged
hello
Hero Member
*****

Karma: +29/-48
Offline Offline

Gender: Female
Posts: 646


View Profile
« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2012, 11:27:52 PM »

1h dagger and dual daggers +4 both pvp same dmg, tested on OBT so imo dual daggers are best Smiley

You're wrong, test it again and prove with screenshots, 1h daggers with SA CD make more dmg than dual daggers that have no SA (-CD) and remember that dual dagger +4  got 2-3% lower CD then 1H Dagger +CD

Is like eyolis said, the propose to use dual daggers is only for cancel ofc if u have it on {pvp} and for PVE.
with duals u get Special Ability: PvP Damage Lv.1 that is equal to 1H dagger Special Ability: Crtical Damage Lv.3 u will make same dmg with both daggers and the only reason dual daggers are better is that u can use dual blow and have more dps. when u add pvp on dual daggers u get Special Ability: PvP Damage Lv.3 while on 1H dagger its only lvl1 Smiley so I don't need any screens it's just pure facts... go test urself and qq then.

i hope you realize that all weapons above top A(?) get extra pvp damage when you SA them, it's not just dual daggers, single handed daggers also get it.
Logged

)
mk89
Full Member
***

Karma: +2/-9
Offline Offline

Posts: 161


View Profile
« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2012, 11:33:51 PM »

1h dagger and dual daggers +4 both pvp same dmg, tested on OBT so imo dual daggers are best Smiley

You're wrong, test it again and prove with screenshots, 1h daggers with SA CD make more dmg than dual daggers that have no SA (-CD) and remember that dual dagger +4  got 2-3% lower CD then 1H Dagger +CD

Is like eyolis said, the propose to use dual daggers is only for cancel ofc if u have it on {pvp} and for PVE.
with duals u get Special Ability: PvP Damage Lv.1 that is equal to 1H dagger Special Ability: Crtical Damage Lv.3 u will make same dmg with both daggers and the only reason dual daggers are better is that u can use dual blow and have more dps. when u add pvp on dual daggers u get Special Ability: PvP Damage Lv.3 while on 1H dagger its only lvl1 Smiley so I don't need any screens it's just pure facts... go test urself and qq then.

i hope you realize that all weapons above top A(?) get extra pvp damage when you SA them, it's not just dual daggers, single handed daggers also get it.
o rly?
http://base.l2j.ru/index.php?p=2&id=14127
http://base.l2j.ru/index.php?p=2&id=13884

Now u can start troll that it's l2j database Smiley
Logged
Soul`
Hero Member
*****

Karma: +10/-66
Offline Offline

Posts: 573


View Profile
« Reply #14 on: January 01, 2012, 11:34:50 PM »

noobs daggers
Logged
Pages: [1] 2 3   Go Up
Print
Jump to: