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Here's the thing:
have normal icarus dagger and blows +earth. Today bought icarus dual dagger +25 wind. I don't know if I should make it stricte pve dagger by going +holy or maybe if I should make it +earth as well or maybe leave it +wind, since vesper shaper +wind seems to be bit more popular than +earth.
Want to find out from H5 specs. if using dual daggers in pvp makes any sense. Dual dagger provide extra blow, but from what I've heard land rate of regulars blows (deadly, bs, lethal) is lower comparing with singular dagger. Dunno if it's true. Another thing: singular dagger has CD SA while dual has focus.
To conclude:
1. is it just my opinion/observation or is vesper shaper wind is more popular than earth?
2. which dagger is better in pvp in H5? Regular one or dual?
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« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2011, 10:58:03 PM » |
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Make it what ever element you want and put your skills on duel
Dual dagger = only useful when there is PvP on it to cancel
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« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2011, 11:24:53 PM » |
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as far as I know going +duel makes sense only with blows +25 or higher, but I might be wrong tho.
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« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2011, 09:10:37 PM » |
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Here's the thing:
have normal icarus dagger and blows +earth. Today bought icarus dual dagger +25 wind. I don't know if I should make it stricte pve dagger by going +holy or maybe if I should make it +earth as well or maybe leave it +wind, since vesper shaper +wind seems to be bit more popular than +earth.
Want to find out from H5 specs. if using dual daggers in pvp makes any sense. Dual dagger provide extra blow, but from what I've heard land rate of regulars blows (deadly, bs, lethal) is lower comparing with singular dagger. Dunno if it's true. Another thing: singular dagger has CD SA while dual has focus.
To conclude:
1. is it just my opinion/observation or is vesper shaper wind is more popular than earth?
2. which dagger is better in pvp in H5? Regular one or dual?
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« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2011, 06:06:48 PM » |
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btw, according to all classes and weapons - whats better after all? duel or element enchant?
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« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2011, 06:12:43 PM » |
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btw, according to all classes and weapons - whats better after all? duel or element enchant?
duel > power > element |
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« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2011, 11:18:26 PM » |
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btw, according to all classes and weapons - whats better after all? duel or element enchant?
duel > power > element are you sure about it? I think that you refer to situation with 1800 resist. But with 900 (or less) ele isn't bad idea I think. |
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« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2011, 11:40:16 PM » |
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btw, according to all classes and weapons - whats better after all? duel or element enchant?
duel > power > element are you sure about it? I think that you refer to situation with 1800 resist. But with 900 (or less) ele isn't bad idea I think. element skills sux .... it isnt so hard to make 900 set and you will have if you are not idiot 120resist at least for each element and also every1 will have elemental protect so from your 300 attributed weapon you will get max 160attr and it isnt here so hard to get some resists buff which are boosted also and btw attribut damage was decreased. 300=+70% 150=+40% 35=+20% if i am right |
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« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2011, 03:43:43 PM » |
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Wait some weeks, and change skills to duel, use 1H dagger sa CD |
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« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2011, 08:57:52 PM » |
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1h dagger and dual daggers +4 both pvp same dmg, tested on OBT so imo dual daggers are best |
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« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2011, 10:32:09 PM » |
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1h dagger and dual daggers +4 both pvp same dmg, tested on OBT so imo dual daggers are best You're wrong, test it again and prove with screenshots, 1h daggers with SA CD make more dmg than dual daggers that have no SA (-CD) and remember that dual dagger +4 got 2-3% lower CD then 1H Dagger +CD Is like eyolis said, the propose to use dual daggers is only for cancel ofc if u have it on {pvp} and for PVE. |
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« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2012, 10:49:33 PM » |
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1h dagger and dual daggers +4 both pvp same dmg, tested on OBT so imo dual daggers are best You're wrong, test it again and prove with screenshots, 1h daggers with SA CD make more dmg than dual daggers that have no SA (-CD) and remember that dual dagger +4 got 2-3% lower CD then 1H Dagger +CD Is like eyolis said, the propose to use dual daggers is only for cancel ofc if u have it on {pvp} and for PVE. with duals u get Special Ability: PvP Damage Lv.1 that is equal to 1H dagger Special Ability: Crtical Damage Lv.3 u will make same dmg with both daggers and the only reason dual daggers are better is that u can use dual blow and have more dps. when u add pvp on dual daggers u get Special Ability: PvP Damage Lv.3 while on 1H dagger its only lvl1 so I don't need any screens it's just pure facts... go test urself and qq then. |
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« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2012, 11:27:52 PM » |
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1h dagger and dual daggers +4 both pvp same dmg, tested on OBT so imo dual daggers are best You're wrong, test it again and prove with screenshots, 1h daggers with SA CD make more dmg than dual daggers that have no SA (-CD) and remember that dual dagger +4 got 2-3% lower CD then 1H Dagger +CD Is like eyolis said, the propose to use dual daggers is only for cancel ofc if u have it on {pvp} and for PVE. with duals u get Special Ability: PvP Damage Lv.1 that is equal to 1H dagger Special Ability: Crtical Damage Lv.3 u will make same dmg with both daggers and the only reason dual daggers are better is that u can use dual blow and have more dps. when u add pvp on dual daggers u get Special Ability: PvP Damage Lv.3 while on 1H dagger its only lvl1 so I don't need any screens it's just pure facts... go test urself and qq then. i hope you realize that all weapons above top A(?) get extra pvp damage when you SA them, it's not just dual daggers, single handed daggers also get it. |
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« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2012, 11:33:51 PM » |
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1h dagger and dual daggers +4 both pvp same dmg, tested on OBT so imo dual daggers are best You're wrong, test it again and prove with screenshots, 1h daggers with SA CD make more dmg than dual daggers that have no SA (-CD) and remember that dual dagger +4 got 2-3% lower CD then 1H Dagger +CD Is like eyolis said, the propose to use dual daggers is only for cancel ofc if u have it on {pvp} and for PVE. with duals u get Special Ability: PvP Damage Lv.1 that is equal to 1H dagger Special Ability: Crtical Damage Lv.3 u will make same dmg with both daggers and the only reason dual daggers are better is that u can use dual blow and have more dps. when u add pvp on dual daggers u get Special Ability: PvP Damage Lv.3 while on 1H dagger its only lvl1 so I don't need any screens it's just pure facts... go test urself and qq then. i hope you realize that all weapons above top A(?) get extra pvp damage when you SA them, it's not just dual daggers, single handed daggers also get it. o rly? Now u can start troll that it's l2j database |
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« Reply #14 on: January 01, 2012, 11:34:50 PM » |
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« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2012, 11:53:27 PM » |
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noobs daggers
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« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2012, 12:07:50 AM » |
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did u say smth smart? missed it sorry
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« Reply #17 on: January 02, 2012, 12:19:55 AM » |
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New Dual blow skill is not a lol reason to roll to dual daggers.. So i still prefer for pvps 1H daggers with SA CD!
If you prefer dual daggers is your problem.. GL & HF.
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« Reply #18 on: January 02, 2012, 12:22:35 AM » |
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ye tell that to ur grandmother  I posted facts and u just write post with no backup so go make screens when server is up or just stfu dude |
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« Reply #19 on: January 02, 2012, 09:04:21 AM » |
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1h dagger and dual daggers +4 both pvp same dmg, tested on OBT so imo dual daggers are best You're wrong, test it again and prove with screenshots, 1h daggers with SA CD make more dmg than dual daggers that have no SA (-CD) and remember that dual dagger +4 got 2-3% lower CD then 1H Dagger +CD Is like eyolis said, the propose to use dual daggers is only for cancel ofc if u have it on {pvp} and for PVE. with duals u get Special Ability: PvP Damage Lv.1 that is equal to 1H dagger Special Ability: Crtical Damage Lv.3 u will make same dmg with both daggers and the only reason dual daggers are better is that u can use dual blow and have more dps. when u add pvp on dual daggers u get Special Ability: PvP Damage Lv.3 while on 1H dagger its only lvl1 so I don't need any screens it's just pure facts... go test urself and qq then. i hope you realize that all weapons above top A(?) get extra pvp damage when you SA them, it's not just dual daggers, single handed daggers also get it. o rly? Now u can start troll that it's l2j database Special Ability: Crtical Damage Lv.2
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« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2012, 09:20:33 AM » |
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He dont know with that daggers dual +4 you got -2-3 of CD, Legend (CD) Critical DamageThat new blow is not a very hard reason to roll to dual daggers.. You are free to try it... But remember at last you gonna prefer 1H dagger with CD SA for solo pvp and dual for pve. Btw everyone has their playstyle, so, u get the point. Try and see what u prefer: power or rate (its like choosing between focus power and focus chance ) |
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« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2012, 06:12:28 PM » |
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He dont know with that daggers dual +4 you got -2-3 of CD, Legend (CD) Critical DamageThat new blow is not a very hard reason to roll to dual daggers.. You are free to try it... But remember at last you gonna prefer 1H dagger with CD SA for solo pvp and dual for pve. Btw everyone has their playstyle, so, u get the point. Try and see what u prefer: power or rate (its like choosing between focus power and focus chance ) No one chooses focus chance lol |
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« Reply #22 on: January 02, 2012, 06:25:25 PM » |
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Of course no one chose focus chance for pvp, because that no one chose dual daggers for pvp  Understand the point xD |
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« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2012, 06:45:13 PM » |
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make +12 duals get +5str set and go own every1 with 1.5k atak speed an 500crit rate.
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« Reply #24 on: January 02, 2012, 06:53:12 PM » |
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thanks for all the replies I decided to keep using normal dagger with cd and blows +++ ele (enchant route will be changed one day) and dual dagger holy for pve. |
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