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« on: February 15, 2011, 01:32:11 AM » |
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What is the best subclasses to take for Adventurer and why ? thanks for help 
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« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2011, 02:08:10 AM » |
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I'm going to suggest classes with triggers and/or passives that are useful to you in both pve and pvp. (If you have a boxed buffer/cov/pof/pow dealer leveling should go smoothly)
1st - Tyrant, for Haste trigger, and because it's hella' easy to farm with it, that's why you should take it as first. 2nd - Archer, i'd go for HE because it's basically the toughest and has useful skills from the lot of them. Pick Evasion boost from this, not Crit. Chance trigger, it's useless. 3rd - A tank.
On all of the stages in sub-classing pick M.Def emergent skill (on 65 and 70), always, stack that shit!
If i'm wrong with this setup, professional dagger users can correct it. This is just what i'd roll if i had a dagger as my main... Good luck!
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« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2011, 02:31:48 AM » |
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i would pick celest instead of ud
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« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2011, 02:49:54 AM » |
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Is it problem what i choose first on subclass? for example i take: 1) tyrant (for trigger haste) 2) archer (for crit chance or evasion boost) 3) sws or bd for celestial ? if bad - correct me  James, what subbs u have? I guess u are gk LordJames in game;)
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« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2011, 03:36:24 AM » |
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My two cents are that just having evasion subskill isn't enough, you're also supposed to have your passives OE'd to at least second step.
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« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2011, 11:20:32 AM » |
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u wana pve build or PvP haste is for idiots because there is fixed reuse rate. It was good before gracia Atm haste is the stupidest option. pvp build: Warrior Class (Gladiator, Warlord, Bounty Hunter, Tyrant, Destroyer,)  CP boost - Increase Max.CP +738 CP Rogue Class (Hawkeye, Silver Ranger, Phantom Ranger, Treasure Hunter, Plainswalker, Abyss Walker,) - Boost Evasion - Increase evasion +4 Evasion Enchanter Class (Prophet, Warcryer, Inspector, Swordsinger, Bladedancer) Counter Barrier - 3% chance to become temporarily invincible to damage (but not debuffs) when under attack - Celestial shield type of buff for 5-7 seconds My friend is using atm  Resist Mental Increase resistance to Sleep, Hold, Paralize and Shock attacks +5% because it is passive and it give u all time 5% resist. (instead of celestial)
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« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2011, 11:26:30 AM » |
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haste is rape
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« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2011, 11:59:30 AM » |
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#1 I wouldn't pick Celestial trigger because, simply because, it fucks up your bishop's capabilities to keep you alive, which even if it's for a small period of time sometimes it can be crucial. If you get back-stabbed once and your HP drops to let's say to like half or under half, and the Celestial triggers, the bishop can't heal you in that time (if he doesn't have Balance reused that is); time after which you can get back-stabbed once more and you're done. (That's my two cents on Celestial, why i didn't include it) #2 @kvaser you're a dumb-dumb, Resist Mental doesn't work, it's a waste of certification. Tell that to your friend also.  #3 That CP Boost is useless, since you get CP lethaled A LOT these days. Just buy/make an S-grade shirt + CP, preferably Stripped Linen Shirt for the 700+ CP bonus and you're good to go. #4 @Sardy, you'd be surprised what +4 evasion is and does for an 83+ dagger...
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« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2011, 12:01:06 PM » |
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i suggest u +cp boost +evasion +celestial
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« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2011, 12:22:00 PM » |
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u wana pve build or PvP haste is for idiots because there is fixed reuse rate. It was good before gracia Atm haste is the stupidest option. pvp build: Warrior Class (Gladiator, Warlord, Bounty Hunter, Tyrant, Destroyer,)  CP boost - Increase Max.CP +738 CP Rogue Class (Hawkeye, Silver Ranger, Phantom Ranger, Treasure Hunter, Plainswalker, Abyss Walker,) - Boost Evasion - Increase evasion +4 Evasion Enchanter Class (Prophet, Warcryer, Inspector, Swordsinger, Bladedancer) Counter Barrier - 3% chance to become temporarily invincible to damage (but not debuffs) when under attack - Celestial shield type of buff for 5-7 seconds My friend is using atm  Resist Mental Increase resistance to Sleep, Hold, Paralize and Shock attacks +5% because it is passive and it give u all time 5% resist. (instead of celestial) Correct.you dont need haste in pvp because it has realy low chance to land and because you have it already in passive skills from your class. cp is good in dagger because you can do one more hit(700 cp is good  imo) evasion>all in dagger(not sure about that but this is what i believe) and cele is a skill that you may need in a ''bad'' time 
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« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2011, 12:25:33 PM » |
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#3 That CP Boost is useless, since you get CP lethaled A LOT these days. Just buy/make an S-grade shirt + CP, preferably Stripped Linen Shirt for the 700+ CP bonus and you're good to go.
#4 @Sardy, you'd be surprised what +4 evasion is and does for an 83+ dagger...
well cp shirt plus 700 cp from sub makes you even stronger with 1,5k more cp. so my vote goes for cp. ahhh and yeah +4 evasion makes big difference on dodge too , so evasion goes great for a dagger. celestial could keep your ass alive.
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« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2011, 01:18:13 PM » |
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#1 I wouldn't pick Celestial trigger because, simply because, it fucks up your bishop's capabilities to keep you alive, which even if it's for a small period of time sometimes it can be crucial. If you get back-stabbed once and your HP drops to let's say to like half or under half, and the Celestial triggers, the bishop can't heal you in that time (if he doesn't have Balance reused that is); time after which you can get back-stabbed once more and you're done. (That's my two cents on Celestial, why i didn't include it) #2 @kvaser you're a dumb-dumb, Resist Mental doesn't work, it's a waste of certification. Tell that to your friend also.  #3 That CP Boost is useless, since you get CP lethaled A LOT these days. Just buy/make an S-grade shirt + CP, preferably Stripped Linen Shirt for the 700+ CP bonus and you're good to go. #4 @Sardy, you'd be surprised what +4 evasion is and does for an 83+ dagger... didnt know that mental doesen't work ... my friend told me it is his pick but i am more in this celestial/cp+evasion. Dagger need a evasion cert for shure ... cp + celestial is an option u can pick all certs u wana but in my opinion those are best u can get ... ofc u can invest in some other onest for example - Crit.dmg Reduction Reduce the amount of received critical damage 5% crit.dmg decrease but when i played a dagger i took those 3 i told before
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« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2011, 02:10:05 PM » |
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i suggest u +cp boost +evasion +celestial
this. ud should be ok aswell
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« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2011, 02:40:16 PM » |
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knight ud celestial and evasion
taking cp is pointless, haste is pointless and resist trait is bugged on this server
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« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2011, 02:40:25 PM » |
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celestial is way better than UD , at least for me 
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« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2011, 02:54:31 PM » |
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celestial is way better than UD , at least for me  read what i wrote
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« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2011, 02:55:28 PM » |
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celestial is way better than UD , at least for me  read what i wrote i answered to riv , didint even saw what u writed:)
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« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2011, 03:03:54 PM » |
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knight ud celestial and evasion
taking cp is pointless, haste is pointless and resist trait is bugged on this server
bugged? even that resist triat + moira or moraia dunno (that set +50% paralys resist) won't help u against SLH on retail
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« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2011, 03:51:18 PM » |
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knight ud celestial and evasion
taking cp is pointless, haste is pointless and resist trait is bugged on this server
bugged? even that resist triat + moira or moraia dunno (that set +50% paralys resist) won't help u against SLH on retail no
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« Reply #19 on: February 15, 2011, 08:05:49 PM » |
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I prefere PVP. So i do: -celestial -evasion and no idea about last 
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« Reply #20 on: February 16, 2011, 03:12:40 PM » |
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haste is for fast blow spams since with rene and champ there is nice reuse
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« Reply #21 on: February 16, 2011, 03:18:35 PM » |
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haste is for fast blow spams since with rene and champ there is nice reuse
which game? haste = pve mode
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« Reply #22 on: February 16, 2011, 05:07:52 PM » |
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haste is for fast blow spams since with rene and champ there is nice reuse
let me gues u are from lay low or ooc top farming pt ?
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« Reply #23 on: February 17, 2011, 12:12:35 AM » |
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I prefere PVP. So i do: -celestial -evasion and no idea about last  cp and ud is uslesss but mby am i wrong?
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« Reply #24 on: February 17, 2011, 12:41:20 AM » |
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haste is for fast blow spams since with rene and champ there is nice reuse
let me gues u are from lay low or ooc top farming pt ? And let me guess, you are from TZ ? Dude, stop pulling satirical posts on the General section and go vent your idiocy on Flame section.
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